I think it's perfect to be singing a Bob Dylan gospel song. I felt like when I was doing "God on Our Side," it was a spiritual. The song I'm doing now, "Saving Grace," it definitely hits home, like there go I before the grace of God.

After John [Lennon] got shot Bob Dylan said, "Tim, I got a present for you." It had a bow on it, and all that stuff, and it was a bullet proof vest. Bob was very popular and he actually had to hold a press conference about his safety, and they asked him, do you fear death? And he had a great comment. He said, "No, I fear what comes after death." I thought that was pretty cool, you know.

I think I was probably the outlaw of the whole deal. As far as my co-writing credit for the song "Saved", we were in Santa Monica, and we're getting ready to rehearse, run through some things. I picked up my bass and as I was playing, he said, "Tim, keep playing." And here he is writing lyrics, you know. And I went, well, this is pretty cool. He's playing something I created, you know, and this particular thing he just zoomed in on it big time. And he told me later, "I'm going to tell everybody that you wrote the lyrics, and I did the music!"

As far as spirituality it never ended, but as far as records, making the record "Shot of Love," I thought was a wonderful record, and it still had the thing. But he, I think, with "Slow Train" and "Saved," Bob had said what he wanted to say, and then it evolved into other things.